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aloha Dean, I really think that Palmpedia is a wonderful site and I enjoy it very much. It was your posting of the thread on Patagonia that prompted me to respond. I do not have a camera but trust me; mature, the hoffmannii rivals the Patagonia and is very similar. If you want to try to...

When I was touring the Burle Marx garden during the recent biennial in Rio many of us were very impressed with a hoffmanii that looked like a (sp) Patagonia. I was fortunate to find a plant in flower, collected 2 seeds that turned out to be pods with about 60 seeds in each. I was surprised...